Debate 2

Being an atheist, I don’t have a god or gods to turn to for comfort or to understand the world. What I do have to those ends are the things that occupy my mind for most of my conscious life: ethics, morals, and people. Of course there are other things, pets, good beer, good coffee, etc., but those are the biggies, the ones that define my life and how I interact with others lives.

So, you might accurately say that I make a study of the ethics and morals in other people’s interactions. I have no idea what Sen. Obama thinks of Sen. McCain outside of policy points. That’s a good thing, because it means that Obama treats McCain with respect and has the restraint to keep his emotions from becoming a problem in public. Sen. McCain, on the other hand, constantly gives off little indicators of the rage ins disdain that he keeps bottled inside him. From closing his eyes to contain himself while Obama is talking, to the two examples below, McCain gives the impression of an angry and disrespectful man.

The first is an example of McCain dehumanizing Obama by calling him “that one”. Even his grin to the crowd seems like he’s baring his teeth, not to mention his unhidden sarcasm:

Next, we have an example of McCain refusing to shake Obama’s hand after the debate.

The little back pat that he gives Obama is demeaning and not the show of respect an equal deserves. Is this the kind of man that we can trust to meet with leaders of other countries, especially ones he doesn’t agree with? I think not.

I don’t think conservatives are bad people. Certain conservatives, like certain liberals, frighten me with the prospect of them having any hand in running our nation. John McCain, with his sarcasm, anger, and lack of respect, is one of them.

(h/t to TPM, which is good when they’re not giving their opinion, for the videos)


7 Responses to “Debate 2”

  1. Yep. McCain is honest and straightforward about his opinions of people and situation. I understand where some people would be made uncomfortable by such behavior. We have swaths of the American populous who’ve been indoctrinated into the belief what one mustn’t behave in such a manner.

  2. greetings, yes. I don’t like this guy, with the beady little eyes, and all, the cartoonists have him down. Military really f’ed him good, big time, and he ends up being a senator so many years….What do those people in AZ go by, when they vote for this kind of lunacy????
    What in gods name are they on there in that state, Mescaline? Maybe there is something in the water, the EPA is not telling us about
    Soul Asylum Dragging the Lake is playing…..gotta go folks, but this latest score on TV was lousy, no one was even real. but o.,

    I am getting tired of all this, let’s hope it ends soon.

  3. I got a little too annoyed, banging the keys misspelled my line…
    With Iceland tanked and Britain too, no one bothers to even mention these crises…anyhow, like I said, if the truth would’ve been allowed, and the touchy feelly crap thrown out, what a difference. The whole post commentary had an air of a “Silly Symphony”, or a “Merry Melody” cartoon.

  4. St. Bastard Says:

    Yep. McCain is honest and straightforward about his opinions of people and situation. I understand where some people would be made uncomfortable by such behavior. We have swaths of the American populous who’ve been indoctrinated into the belief what one mustn’t behave in such a manner.

    This is remarkable short-sighted. Yes, we in the normal world have the luxury of being forthright about our feelings, because the outcome of that will likely only affect ourselves. However, what about at work? Being unable to censor yourself may result in the loss of your job, which has a direct effect on being able to support yourself or a family.

    McCain as president would be a lot like the work example. McCain, if he becomes president, will have to work with people he doesn’t like and may make him angry. If he is not able to hide his dislike or anger with, say, a foreign dignitary, the consequences of that can effect the rtire country. The President does not have the luxury of acting like a petulant and spoiled child. He needs fortitude, and even above that, guile.

    The whole point of diplomacy is working with people that you may piss you off. However, a strong diplomat doesn’t have to like the people that he works with, he just has to get along with them. I don’t see McCain having the restraint to do this.

  5. There’s more than one school of diplomacy, St. Bastard. Both the US and the USSR have had our share of diplomats who were not known for being polite to their enemies. Most of those men managed to do quite well for the respective nations. Some of that was because their opposition / enemies knew exactly where they stood on any issue.

  6. St. Bastard Says:

    Be that as it may, jonolan, you have to admit that the key is still controlled anger. I know that other emotions other than the easy-going ones have a part in diplomacy, and I admittedly should have noted that. However, even if a successful diplomat (and I don’t mean the official position, but anyone who acts with diplomacy) shows anger, outrage, or even sadness, it should be calculated, and not an outcome of their own lack of restraint. And, a good diplomat never shows that they simply don’t like another party, whether it’s a person, country, or group.

    McCain’s history of angry outbursts, grudge-holding, and simple unpent aggression is well-documented by those who have opposed him in the past. That is not the type of person we need running this country.

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